DISQUS

Miss P · 10 months ago

The Red Cross also need blood and the CFA nees volunterers ASAP.

Jayne · 10 months ago

There's a list of charities and banks to donate toHERE.

thevoiceofreason · 10 months ago

Australia's biggest natural disater, but not big enough for heartless Turnbull to visit? Does he care about Victorians in their time of crisis?

Iain_Hall · 10 months ago

VOR
now is not the time to score cheap political points
Good effort here Jeremy, there comes a time when we all have to admit, as I have at mine, when we made a poor judgement call.

Jeremy · 10 months ago

"now is not the time to score cheap political points "

Well quite, but don't project on to me. I did no such thing.

Iain_Hall · 10 months ago

I was addressing that part of my comment to VOR (voice of reason) Jeremy , not you.

Jeremy · 10 months ago

*slaps head*

Duh, I know. I was retorting to the last two lines of yours, by reference to what you'd told VOR.

ie your poor judgment call was trying to make cheap political capital out of the events - I did no such thing, hence my not actually apologising for it.

Iain_Hall · 10 months ago

Jeremy
we both did essentially the same thing yesterday, which was to make light of something that was far to serious for flippant humour, Now I have posted an unreserved apology for my poor taste,and bad timing. I read this post as doing essentially the thing as my post and I was actually congratulating you for doings so.

Jeremy · 10 months ago

No, Iain, we didn't. I wrote a post expressing my discomfort with the climate breaking records (which I stand by, and which wasn't having a go at anyone) - you wrote a pretty pathetic (and nonsensical) attack on your "warmenistas" boogeyman.

Entirely different.

thevoiceofreason · 10 months ago

Iain, i think it's a vaild question to ask where Turnbull is, he does represent Australians and has yet to survey Australia's biggest natural disater. Some things are bigger than politics and we have a right to ask where he is surely without being slandered?

thevoiceofreason · 10 months ago

Due to public presure Turnbull has now visited, and is horrified at the scale of the disaster. Thank you Mr. Turbull as you you need to see to believe this one.

Jeremy · 10 months ago

Anyway - back to the topic. Does anyone know which organisations are taking donations of clothes, food etc?

kedgie · 10 months ago

Here's what I've found:

You can make offers of clothing and accomodation directly to shires in areas affected by the bushfires:

Alpine Shire - (03) 5755-0513

Baw Baw Shire - 1300 859 446

Cardinia Shire - 1300 787 634

City of Greater Bendigo - (03) 5447 2248

City of Horsham - (03) 5382 9794

Nillumbilk Shire - (03) 9438 5299

Yarra Ranges - 1300 368 333

Murrindini Shire - (03) 5772 0333

Mitchell Shire - (03) 5734 6232

Whittlesea Shire - (03) 9217 2170

PKD · 10 months ago

I'll be donating some cash tonight - but not blood, given us poms are *still* banned from giving blood in Australia....:(

Anyone know if there any other ways to help also?

RobJ · 10 months ago

Yeah, I've always been a little squeamish about giving blood and been able to hide behind the fact that I'm British (Taffy) so I can't, now I actually wouldn't mind donating some.

kedgie · 10 months ago

PKD - Not just the poms. Taffs also. I can't donate.

philip travers · 10 months ago

I felt Turnbull used his name and his statements,about fireys in a very supportive way,and maybe he himself is a much deeper human being,than I have suspected.I don't know about the firey's health after this though,lungs and mental state.Perhaps some University somewhere should investigate decompression chambers for firefighters to free them up a bit from any lungshit hanging on.And all fire engines should have negative ion generators in them as advertised in the Queensland Magazine Nexus ,Duncan Rhoades Editor.They might have some degree of toxicity in around their eyes,cold water hand towels or flannels over the eyes when at rest horizontally.And dont be surprised,if not shocked, after the fires another wave of disaster occurs,cannot name it yet,maybe in deep winter and the bloody opposite..big freeze or infrastructure collapse.After all Victorians have seen the rail shrinkage, perhaps metal fatigue will visit in very unexciting ways.I will carry that cross as burden ,if my premonition proves to show its ugly head.

josh · 10 months ago

Apart from making a donation I note that we waste an estimated AUD$6billion each year on multiculturalism. Might it be better if we suspend the English language lessons and the poncing about in national costumes by the various ethnic groups and spend that money on rebuilding the lives of people who have lost so much in these horrendous fires?

RobJ · 10 months ago

I'd rather save money by abolishing SHIT like the 'Pacific Solution' or the laser guided bombs we had to buy off the US so we could bomb Iraq with (nothing against having defences but there was NOTHING defensive about bombing Iraq)

There's plenty of SHIT spending that could be axed before we abandon multiculturalism.

PKD · 10 months ago

Josh - are you really as stupid as that comment makes you sound?

And where did you get the figure of $6bn from out of interest? 1st time I've heard it.

I'm sure we can find much better places to source the rebuilding money from - like the Govts net filter!

Michael · 10 months ago

Wilson Tuckey has his priorities right- he's already blaming 'greenies' for the fires.

philip travers · 10 months ago

Hands off Reap, because Academia via the Fairfax Press and one Freya Matthews from the Latrobe Philosophy Department ,has said the scientist warned us and Climate Change is the cause of the Fires in Victoria.So all the cigarette smokers dont have to look so guilty,the firebugs being closed in on by Police no worries, the few fire chiefs themselves so far who have doubted their own directions are having a massage, the house and landowners are simply not even considering their own mistakes.The Insurance companies are hoping Freya's scientists are all God- fearing folk like Bob Brown,thus God done it through Climate Change and us heathens who are dependent on carbon dioxide emission economies.Thus no worries for Insurance and Assurance Policies.The Government stimulus package then is a response to an Emergency , so Sheehan gets it up the nose with a rubber hose,and Saint Kevin Rudd appeals to all the Worldly Christian financiers who still have a cracker.There is only one thing wrong with this.The Australian Conservation Foundation has also put out a release this happens around every ten years, and the conservationists have some difficulty over a long time in what species are allowed to survive for economic reasons.I suppose we still need the Freya's so the Reap's can be wholeheartedly condemned,and she being Australia's over-riding expert on understanding Australian experts still willing to participate with the UNO body on the rising temperature.Whereas my daily site visits,to what Jeremy thinks I promote tell me something different,and so does the energy site KeeleyNet.Com trusted site as it is,as he tries to survive himself in Mexico.I am glad I have never felt superior to the problems of Mexicans,and those bloody large Sombrero Hats,often worn by Gay persons are almost ideal for Victorians,so you dont need to squint behind sunglasses,if the Freya person has facial characteristics like you.For God works in wondrous ways. And has never listened to the song Dark Side of the Moon.

SB · 10 months ago

The question is what is to be learned from this?

Some have called for greater powers to compel people to leave their homes. I doubt this is a good idea.

Advising people to leave early or stay and defend looks like bad advice now as many stayers realised too late that there was no real way to defend and either died at their house or leaving late and panicked.

The South Australians seem to have had some success targeting known or suspected arsonists

One couple survived in a bunker. It should not cost too much to dig a fairly small hole, line it with cinder blocks and throw some dirt on some corrugated iron on the top.. You only need an hour down there to survive.

No doubt the Royal Commission will sift through the factors that made this so bad and come up with some ideas.